Comments on: Michael Polanyi, Articulation, and Marx’s Fatal Flaw http://hakpaksak.wordpress.com/2007/05/10/michael-polanyi-the-drive-to-articulate-the-internet-and-marx%e2%80%99s-fatal-flaw/ Stephen Lewis on Infrastructure, Identity, Communication, and Change Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:04:17 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Stephen Lewis http://hakpaksak.wordpress.com/2007/05/10/michael-polanyi-the-drive-to-articulate-the-internet-and-marx%e2%80%99s-fatal-flaw/#comment-1453 Stephen Lewis Tue, 12 May 2009 13:31:48 +0000 http://hakpaksak.wordpress.com/2007/05/10/michael-polanyi-the-drive-to-articulate-the-internet-and-marx%e2%80%99s-fatal-flaw/#comment-1453 Excellent model ...and how delightfully ironic that the very nature of knowledge even enables an evasive malapropism of Rumsfeld's to lead us our own way to understanding! It brings out the religious side of me! Excellent model …and how delightfully ironic that the very nature of knowledge even enables an evasive malapropism of Rumsfeld’s to lead us our own way to understanding! It brings out the religious side of me!

]]> By: Boyan Penkov http://hakpaksak.wordpress.com/2007/05/10/michael-polanyi-the-drive-to-articulate-the-internet-and-marx%e2%80%99s-fatal-flaw/#comment-1450 Boyan Penkov Sat, 09 May 2009 16:05:23 +0000 http://hakpaksak.wordpress.com/2007/05/10/michael-polanyi-the-drive-to-articulate-the-internet-and-marx%e2%80%99s-fatal-flaw/#comment-1450 Well said! I like the more general characterization what we know and can express: applied epistemology as the quadrant of the knowledge-knowledge plane, where the first refers to knowledge about the real, and the second axis is representative of knowledge about the knowledge about the real. This, we can live comfortably in the first quadrant (because we know we know stuff there), can work to improve the second (where we know we don't know it), should be wary of the third (where we don't know we don't know it) and can afford to be surprised by the fourth (where we don't know we know it). I was introduced to this idea by listening to Rumsfeld make excuses about "unknown unknowns" but would like to think the idea is older than that. Well said!

I like the more general characterization what we know and can express: applied epistemology as the quadrant of the knowledge-knowledge plane, where the first refers to knowledge about the real, and the second axis is representative of knowledge about the knowledge about the real. This, we can live comfortably in the first quadrant (because we know we know stuff there), can work to improve the second (where we know we don’t know it), should be wary of the third (where we don’t know we don’t know it) and can afford to be surprised by the fourth (where we don’t know we know it).

I was introduced to this idea by listening to Rumsfeld make excuses about “unknown unknowns” but would like to think the idea is older than that.

]]> By: Tom http://hakpaksak.wordpress.com/2007/05/10/michael-polanyi-the-drive-to-articulate-the-internet-and-marx%e2%80%99s-fatal-flaw/#comment-2 Tom Fri, 11 May 2007 00:44:09 +0000 http://hakpaksak.wordpress.com/2007/05/10/michael-polanyi-the-drive-to-articulate-the-internet-and-marx%e2%80%99s-fatal-flaw/#comment-2 Steve, nice article. A couple of comments--in practice I don't think Marxism ever remained true to its principles, which I attribute more to human frailty than an irreversible flaw in Marxism. Also morality doesn't have to depend on religious beliefs, practices, etc. but it helps even if it is an opiate; there are certainly occasions when relief from pain can clear the mind, although I am not advocating heavy drug use metaphorically or literally! Steve, nice article. A couple of comments–in practice I don’t think Marxism ever remained true to its principles, which I attribute more to human frailty than an irreversible flaw in Marxism. Also morality doesn’t have to depend on religious beliefs, practices, etc. but it helps even if it is an opiate; there are certainly occasions when relief from pain can clear the mind, although I am not advocating heavy drug use metaphorically or literally!

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